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I have seen a few mentions of Windows 11 here but I thought I would start a new thread.

I learned very quickly that my 5 year old PC will not run Windows 11. Then I felt better when I read that some 60-80% of PCs out there won't run it.

For what it's worth, I have another PC - 13 years old - that runs Windows (and TS2021) 10 just fine. (It came with Windows Vista. I upgraded it to Windows 7 and then 10.) Here's my take on the hoopla:

1. I will not run out to buy a new PC just to be able to run Windows 11. Maybe if or when I ever buy another PC, it will come with Windows 11, but by then I will also have some idea whether the new release lives up to the hype.

2. Windows 10 support will end in October 2025. That doesn't mean it will stop running then. There are likely a whole lot of Windows 7 computers still cruising along.

3. I honestly hope that Windows 11 is not the disaster that Windows 8 and 8.1 were.

4. Maybe Microsoft will ease the requirements for the new OS. In my case, the processor appears to be the limiting factor.

Bottom line: don't panic!

Even some of the newer processors are not qualified.

Interesting because reading another cryptic page from Microsoft according to them my processor won't run Win10. Why am I able to communicate with you all?

buzz456 wrote:Interesting because reading another cryptic page from Microsoft according to them my processor won't run Win10. Why am I able to communicate with you all?

Whos zat, somebody there? Hello, can you hear me now? I hear some sort of buzzing on the line.

Seriously why do they post this stuff when it's not true.

It's good marketing. If my computer won't jump through all the nifty hoops in Windows 11 then I just gotta get me one that will.

Give it a couple weeks and the tag line for new PCs will be "Windows 11 ready" - just in time for back-to-school sales.

Here is another link from a another viewpoint on the Windows 11 rollout.
This one suggests that TPM may be a "soft" requirement.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11

BTW Windows 11 ready is already out there especially in the laptop market. TPM will be embedded in the platform and just enabled in BIOS.

AmericanSteam wrote:Here is another link from a another viewpoint on the Windows 11 rollout.
This one suggests that TPM may be a "soft" requirement.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11

BTW Windows 11 ready is already out there especially in the laptop market. TPM will be embedded in the platform and just enabled in BIOS.

Compulsory TPM will open up all kinds of new DRM, will it?

_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:

AmericanSteam wrote:Here is another link from a another viewpoint on the Windows 11 rollout.
This one suggests that TPM may be a "soft" requirement.
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11

BTW Windows 11 ready is already out there especially in the laptop market. TPM will be embedded in the platform and just enabled in BIOS.

Compulsory TPM will open up all kinds of new DRM, will it?

I believe that TPM is more for computer security, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... e-overview

As the supposed launch date is 4 months away this TPM requirement could very well change as over half the computers out there don't meet that requirement. To see if you have TPM 2.0 just type tpm.msc into the command line interface and press the enter key.

Windows 11 is months away from mainstream adoption. Those in the Windows Insider Program, who are usually a higher level of "techie" will get to to play with this and work out the bugs. I certainly will wait for a while and watch the issues unfold. These things are not cast in stone and things will be massaged. The thing here is if you are considering a major upgrade or a new computer keep this information in mind. Read and understand the requirements. Windows 10 will be supported until 2025, a lot of things can and will happen in 4 years. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

trev123 wrote:As the supposed launch date is 4 months away this TPM requirement could very well change as over half the computers out there don't meet that requirement. To see if you have TPM 2.0 just type tpm.msc into the command line interface and press the enter key.

I have been discussing the TPM subject with AmericanSteam during the last few days. He has done a good work of research about it and the W11 requirements.
When you apply tpm.msc you get something like this:



This does not mean you do not have it. You may have a motherboard TPM capable, but not have the TPM module installed or even not enabled in the BIOS.
So there are three steps to comply with:

1- Your motherboard has to support TPM
2- You must have a TPM module hardware connected to your motherboard (normally priced below $20).
3- TPM has to be enabled at BIOS level.

By some articles I have read, there is a good possibility this requirement might be suspended for some time in order to run the first builds of W11.

By the other side, I believe (personal opinion) that in the future, TPM hardware may be made available via a PCIEX1 card, upon approval of Micro soft.
There is no other way if they don´t want to get a tsunami of complaints by current W10 users, that do not have the appropriate motherboard.

If this keeps being an strict requirement by Microsoft, and you have a recent 8th, 9th or 10th generation CPU (or AMD equivalents) and DDR4 memory, you might only have to change the motherboard to have TPM available.

I am right now in the process of buying a new rig and I already purchased the main parts, but I have learned about TPM "after" handling my credit card. So I really could have fallen in a trap and being in the process of having to return the motherboard.

Finally the hackers and scammers will find a way to bypass that way of security and it will become the new headache for Microsoft.

What's the HYPE of Win11.
Just another windows.

My both system qualifies for Win11

jalsina wrote:

trev123 wrote:As the supposed launch date is 4 months away this TPM requirement could very well change as over half the computers out there don't meet that requirement. To see if you have TPM 2.0 just type tpm.msc into the command line interface and press the enter key.

I have been discussing the TPM subject with AmericanSteam during the last few days. He has done a good work of research about it and the W11 requirements.
When you apply tpm.msc you get something like this:

TPMmsc.jpg

This does not mean you do not have it. You may have a motherboard TPM capable, but not have the TPM module installed or even not enabled in the BIOS.
So there are three steps to comply with:

1- Your motherboard has to support TPM
2- You must have a TPM module hardware connected to your motherboard (normally priced below $20).
3- TPM has to be enabled at BIOS level.

By some articles I have read, there is a good possibility this requirement might be suspended for some time in order to run the first builds of W11.

By the other side, I believe (personal opinion) that in the future, TPM hardware may be made available via a PCIEX1 card, upon approval of Micro soft.
There is no other way if they don´t want to get a tsunami of complaints by current W10 users, that do not have the appropriate motherboard.

If this keeps being an strict requirement by Microsoft, and you have a recent 8th, 9th or 10th generation CPU (or AMD equivalents) and DDR4 memory, you might only have to change the motherboard to have TPM available.

I am right now in the process of buying a new rig and I already purchased the main parts, but I have learned about TPM "after" handling my credit card. So I really could have fallen in a trap and being in the process of having to return the motherboard.

Finally the hackers and scammers will find a way to bypass that way of security and it will become the new headache for Microsoft.

Yes, I can turn it on in the bios.

I was reading on another site that MS has removed the tool for determining if your computer can run Windows 11.