Windows 10 Sucks Eggs

[arizonachris]

IF you want to have control over what Win 10 automatically updates (read - shoves down your throat weather you want it or not) you MUST buy it. Plain and simple. I wrestled with the "free" upgrade for a few months, fixing it up to just how I liked it, and was very happy. Note, I am a Microsoft Insider from back in the days we were called Beta Testers (think Win XP and Win 7) I was swapping out and upgrading hardware to see how W10 behaved and it finally puked when I swapped the main board. MS Tech Support said "we can authenticate your W10 for you but you have to quit being an Insider" Whisky Tango Foxtrot??????? No. Just no. So I'm back to Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit (my freebie thru entitlement) until I can afford Win 10 Ultimate.

At the battleship we are currently going thru a phase where we are testing how well Win 10 will do in the Enterprise arena. So far it's doing well, my boss in IT is happy (I not only do volunteer tour guide work but volunteer in IT and security, as well as paid security work) and, for someone who quit working at Google to work on this battleship, that's high praise indeed. Most of the onboard rigs still use Win 7 Pro 64 bit but we do need to think about digging in for the long run. OldProf, you are quite right: man proposes but MS disposes"

I was really liking Win 10 on my home rig, really. It is the perfect blend of Win 7 and Win 8. But Win 8 was for tablets and cell phones, portables. 10 blended that quite well, gave me the new Start menu and the old desktop, with one click. And 10 is fast! 7 takes almost 45 seconds to get to desktop where 10 did it (same rig mind you!) in 22 seconds. Less RAM usage, less CPU. Railworks on a 4k monitor looked better (and ran faster according to FRAPS) on 10. Yeah, so I changed the main board. W10's SSID is tied to your main board. You can change every other thing in your rig several times! I did! Don't change that main board. Fight MS to authenticate even with a valid key.

OK rant over, I gotta work at 0530. See 'ya! (I promise to post more often, I miss y'all!)

[Ericmopar]

I've been reading comments from people that bought either a DVD or a upgrade keycode and they are saying they still don't have any true control of the drivers.
Apparently Win 10 Pro lets a person defer them, but not stop them.

[artimrj]

Win 10 came on my computer. I do not have any of these problems, It is on my SSD and I am at the welcome screen in about 3 seconds from the time the CMOS check is done which takes about 8 seconds. My drivers do not get changed and I do not get auto updates. I turned that off so I can choose what I want to update. The only thing I can not turn off completely is Cortana. It is not running in the foreground but is taking up 2 meg in the background waiting for me to turn it on. I recently read about editting the registry to completely turn it off. Have not tried it yet though.

[buzz456]

Win 10 came on my computer. I do not have any of these problems, It is on my SSD and I am at the welcome screen in about 3 seconds from the time the CMOS check is done which takes about 8 seconds. My drivers do not get changed and I do not get auto updates. I turned that off so I can choose what I want to update. The only thing I can not turn off completely is Cortana. It is not running in the foreground but is taking up 2 meg in the background waiting for me to turn it on. I recently read about editting the registry to completely turn it off. Have not tried it yet though.

How do you do that or I guess I should ask where do you do that? Not the Cortana the other stuff.

[Ericmopar]

I'm curious as to where people are looking, to confirming their drivers are still there.
The reason I ask, is because Win 10 changes them, but leaves the info in Programs and Features the same... IE the old driver info is there even though it's been changed.
The only reason I knew something happened to my preferred Nvidia drivers the other night, was because I was looking under "help" in the Nvidia CP and noticed the driver number was wrong under the system information. I went and looked in Programs and Features and it showed my driver.

My computer keeps waking itself, which is a bug with Wake on LAN and magic packets. I have to keep that stuff unchecked in the network drivers so Cox doesn't wake the computer up. I have no idea why Cox sends something out like that.
So I went to check the settings, and they, MS, had put their driver with no CP back in! IE no way to turn stuff like WOL off.
So I reinstalled a newer version of the Intel Pro Set drivers, so I can get back control of things like Wake on LAN.

This new LAN driver has a higher number from Intel than the MS supplied one, so maybe they will leave it alone.

I know that's why Trevor didn't have his Nvidia driver changed by the anniversary update. His was a higher version number than Big Brother's in Redmond.

As a side note:
I suspect I know why Train Simulator runs a bit smoother in Windows 10. I never allowed the Railworks.exe as an exception in the firewall in Win 7, but Windows 10 added the Train Simulator .exe as an exception all by itself. Hmmmmm. Or maybe Steam did?

[Ericmopar]

Win 10 came on my computer. I do not have any of these problems, It is on my SSD and I am at the welcome screen in about 3 seconds from the time the CMOS check is done which takes about 8 seconds. My drivers do not get changed and I do not get auto updates. I turned that off so I can choose what I want to update. The only thing I can not turn off completely is Cortana. It is not running in the foreground but is taking up 2 meg in the background waiting for me to turn it on. I recently read about editting the registry to completely turn it off. Have not tried it yet though.

How do you do that or I guess I should ask where do you do that? Not the Cortana the other stuff.

I'd like to know too.
If you disable the updates you don't get any at all, including security updates.

[trev123]

I suspect he has the pro version where you can turn auto updates off. Home edition you can't.

[Ericmopar]

I suspect he has the pro version where you can turn auto updates off. Home edition you can't.

You can disable updates in Home 10 Trevor, but you must Hack the registry.
I'm not willing to turn updates completely off, because I'd lose the security patches.

[artimrj]

I did everything under the settings part. Took quite a bit of fishing around. I also did stuff in the APPS section. Been a while so I can not say exactly what I did.

[Ericmopar]

I did everything under the settings part. Took quite a bit of fishing around. I also did stuff in the APPS section. Been a while so I can not say exactly what I did.

If you look in the Anniversary edition Bob, a lot of settings I used just 2 weeks ago are now gone. I read somewhere that they weren't functional in Windows 10 anymore, anyways, so Microsoft finally changed the stuff in the menus to reflect that.

That's why in Devices and Printers, the menu looks different for allowing custom icons etc.

It's a bit late, but hi Chris, long time no see.

[artimrj]

I dont have the Anniversary Edition.

[trev123]

That's the latest version of it and you can download it from here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softwar ... c7f72a4d9a if you want too.

[PapaXpress]

There was talk of licensing and I just saw a item for it here:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/9-windows- ... oull-love/

[trev123]

How to stop updates from MS. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3073930