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Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby BNSF650 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:03 pm

Hey guys been looking on Bestbuy and EBAY and Amazon for a new gaming pc. i need a rig that wont lag and that will handle TSW and RW full FPS. Can someone tell me if this one would be worth getting?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerp ... merreviews
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby Bananarama » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Cyberpower can be a bit iffy. I suggest you look over some of the reviews on YouTube.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby gwgardner » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:37 pm

I don't think you would be happy with that model. What's your price range? Right around there, or could you go higher? The graphics card seems a bit weak.

I just got this:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product

and am extremely happy with it. It was on sale for $1149 a couple of months ago.

You could go with a smaller monitor size, less memory perhaps, but I think you will want that Nvidia 1060 display adapter. It's what makes TS2017 and T:ANE really sing. Can't vouch for how it will work with TSW, but from I've heard, it will do the job well.

Whether a desktop or laptop, the two things I would look for most are the graphics card, Nvidia 1060, and at least a 128 gig SSD hard drive.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby g_nash » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:44 am

Personally I think you'd do better if you could pick the parts and assemble your self if that's possible..Any chance you can post your budget ?

I'll also add that if you plan on using the rumored tools for TSW you should maybe give yourself some headroom with the GPU and the give yourself the ability to add Ram of the same brand/speed/CL in the future.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby BNSF650 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:45 am

Thanks guys i can do about 800 on one or maybe a little more. But i would like to find the best deal and seeing how i dont know what i need or what would be the best that can handle tsw and TS17. Also i been looking on ebay and amazon and bestbuy to see what the best deal i can get.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:10 am

BNSF650 wrote:Thanks guys i can do about 800 on one or maybe a little more. But i would like to find the best deal and seeing how i dont know what i need or what would be the best that can handle tsw and TS17. Also i been looking on ebay and amazon and bestbuy to see what the best deal i can get.


It's impossible to know what you will need for TSW if you decide to purchase this. If you read the recommended specs on the latest article you will need a monster gaming machine for it. I doubt one in a hundred of us have that. Lots of us have the 'minimum' required but only time will tell. Check out NewEgg for their specials if you are not in a huge rush. They run some killer deals every now and then. 800 is going to be tough to get a decent gaming laptop a desktop is within reach for that money. Just remember it's mostly about the video card for performance on TS.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby BNSF650 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:24 am

Yea i want a desktop over a laptop. I am going to keep looking hopefully i can find something good.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:11 am

You really should look into building your own. There are several good books a ton of tutorials online and it's not the hard. I built my own first one for way less than a thousand and got a serious game machine for TS anyway. Some of the just one generation old video cards are really priced low compared to when they were just out and same goes for motherboards. You get very little bang going to a i7 instead of a i5 cpu for this sim and it's a lot less money and while some are in love with big power supplies I never owned one and the 600W to 750W ones are a while lot less money.

Look at NewEgg refurbished computers for a hot deal and then just add you own video card is another way to go. Just make sure whatever you buy has a large enough case for the card.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby ssbobz » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:04 am

A previous iteration of my rig was an AMD FX6100, 8Gb RAM and Radeon HD7870, depending on settings and scene density I could get 15-40 fps from it. Both the cpu and gpu were working hard, often near 100% utilization. Some settings were below max and I run 1080p resolution.

Last year I swapped in an i5-6600K with 16Gb RAM, same gpu, the frame rates went up to a more regular 30-60fps and I think I maxed all the settings except AA.

Last weekend I replaced the gpu with a GTX1060, now I get 60-100 fps even though I increased the AA settings a notch and everything else is maxed. I haven't looked at utilization yet but the fans stay quiet so nothing is getting hot from working hard so I don't think I'm hitting any bottlenecks at this point.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby trev123 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:15 pm

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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:50 pm

Processor: Central Processing Unit: i7 4790: 3.6GHz. Graphics processing unit: Geforce GTX 970 or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: 4GB

That's a lot of horsepower recomended.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby BNSF650 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:24 pm

Alright i found these three on newegg

Which of these and would you all get?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6883230100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... gnorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... gnorebbr=1

I really like the way these look. seems like they would be good to handle both games. Please guys i need some input would like to stay under 900
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby Ericmopar » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:13 pm

None of those and here is why...

I never thought I'd ever hear myself say this, but if you are looking for a budget high performance build, you might want to be patient and build with a AMD Ryzen CPU.
Someone got a hold of a production chip, an R7 X series, mounted on a new Asus X-Hair mobo and they are beating Kaby Lake in single core performance and roasting Intel in multhreading. The Ryzen CPUs are cheaper, and offer unlocked multipliers on all versions.
The Ryzen chip tested was equal to a Kaby Lake chip even at lower clocks.
There are two Ryzen CPUs that are equivalent to i5 K series, that are under $200.
AMD now uses all instruction sets like Intel.
The heat issues of the past are gone.
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Re: Needing some help with a new rig

Unread postby gwgardner » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:24 pm

BNSF650 wrote:Alright i found these three on newegg

Which of these and would you all get?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6883230100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... gnorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... gnorebbr=1

I really like the way these look. seems like they would be good to handle both games. Please guys i need some input would like to stay under 900


The second one, with the 1050 card and the SSD drive would be my choice.

I currently have a Cyberpower desktop. 5 years old now. I have had to replace the power supply and the memory cards over time, due to failures. Haha, other than that, it's fine.
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