Nvidia announce GTX 1060.

[bpetit]

If you wait a few months until prices go down to the original MSRP ($379 for the 1070, $249 for the 1060), it'll be about $130 to jump up to the 1070 which is far below double the price of a 1060

Is anyone aware of any reviews of either of these cards playing Train Simulator 2016? I'm curious to see how each of these cards perform in TS.

Yeah the price is high now, honestly I just really wanted a founders edition. The Canadian dollar being so low jumps up the price of the cards quite a bit.

I'm probably getting the card tomorrow, it was shipped today and from a warehouse about an hour or two from my house. I'll give an update on the 1070's performance over my 770 I currently have.

Same, I'd also like to hear it. I expect it to nearly max TS.

[DrewG]

I never updated here, but I got my 1070. It looks amazing and the performance is insane! My computer runs quite a bit cooler as well, and the blower fan isn't that loud, quieter than my old MSI Twin Frozr 770( I think that's the name, that's what was written on it).

Am I Correct in saying that TS can only use one core of a CPU? If so I still have a FX8350 and I can get over 60FPS on all the routes I've tested so far. At the lowest it will dip to 30, usually because of cab lights and other lights, but I knew TS did that on my 770 too. On my 770 I got between 20-60FPS on routes and now I'm averaging 60-150 on them( including the dips). The routes I get 150 is older ones like cajon.


The improvement is certainly visible, even with the older FX8350. I'm waiting until AMD releases their Zen line of processors to upgrade that. I'm hoping Zen will be better than Intel's current line and hopefully the price will be better.

[bpetit]

Shiny! Good to hear it runs TS better.

[Ericmopar]

Oooooooo... man jewelry.

Those type of Blower fans are more efficient. They take the heated air and remove it from the case, whereas most fan assemblies just recirculate the hot air.
I've heard those are supposed to be noisier than other designs but I've never heard one for myself.

[DrewG]

Oooooooo... man jewelry.

Those type of Blower fans are more efficient. They take the heated air and remove it from the case, whereas most fan assemblies just recirculate the hot air.
I've heard those are supposed to be noisier than other designs but I've never heard one for myself.

The blower type is great, my computer runs quite a bit cooler now. What I didn't get about conventional fans was that on most cases intake fans are at the bottom and the fans of the GPUs blow down, so the hot air is being pushed into the colder intake air. With a blower it heads out the back and the cold intake air gets sent right into the blower fan. It also runs a lot quieter than my old card.

[Haystack]

Thank you for the review Drew

Now I know we've gone over this before, but I can't recall if Train Simulator is more CPU or GPU dependent? In other words would Drew see even more performance out of the 1070 with a CPU upgrade, or is this pretty much the best you would see out of the 1070 regardless of the CPU?

[DrewG]

IIRC TS can only use one core of a processor. AMD's weak point in the FX line of CPU's is the single core performance. If I had a higher end intel then I would see much better frames as Intel's single core performance is a lot better than AMD's. On games that can use multiple cores than my eight core AMD, even though it is 4 years old can still preform amazingly with the 1070, GTA V I can max out at 2715x1527 DSR and still get a constant 60FPS.

[ex-railwayman]

Oooooooo... man jewelry.

I've not heard them being called that before, that's priceless, well done Eric.

Cheerz. Steve.

[Ericmopar]

It's both CPU and GPU dependent.
If you are in an area with lots of HD assets and scripting etc like a rail yard that's full with engines sitting around, you get lots of Draws which is the CPU.
This sim has a lot of Anti Aliasing problems, which is where the powerful GPU comes in. A GPU that can crank out huge numbers of pixels will let a person use some type of SSAA without the GPU having a heart attack.
They've changed something in the game engine over the years. This sim used to be what I'd describe as a core and a half on the CPU, but when I ran a test with logging for several minutes a few days ago, it was using about 50% of the CPU. I opened a scenario with advanced weather on Sherman hill using a core by core log and found out in a busy yard scene at the start of the scenario, the CPU was using a good 2 cores, ie nearly 100% operation on both core 0 and core 1.

[DrewG]

While doing some testing with TS my CPU's core one runs averaging 85% usage. Core 3 and core 6 run about 30-40%.

The 1070 is about 35% usage so there is definitely some bottlenecking with the older CPU. I just don't have the money to switch to Intel.

Doing some calculations though I found out if I did move to an Intel setup I'm planning on getting I could save up to 506 bucks on hydro every year.

[Haystack]

Very Interesting. Due to the AA problems that TS has, what specs on the card are more important to look at? (Amount of ram and bit, core clock, boost clock, cuda cores, etc..).

Since the 1070 is only running around 35% usage with those kind of results, I wonder if you could see about the same out of a 1060, just with a higher usage of the card?

[DrewG]

I did speak a bit to soon I think. After doing more testing when at a big yard in newer routes like soldier summit and FRC the CPU core 1 reaches 100%, the others that are active stay 30% ish, and the frames drop to about 20-25, lowest I saw was 17. That said the card remains at 35-40%. I'd love to see it with an Intel setup, I bet it would be a lot better. That said when out of a yard it remains around the 60FPS range.

[Haystack]

I did speak a bit to soon I think. After doing more testing when at a big yard in newer routes like soldier summit and FRC the CPU core 1 reaches 100%, the others that are active stay 30% ish, and the frames drop to about 20-25, lowest I saw was 17. That said the card remains at 35-40%. I'd love to see it with an Intel setup, I bet it would be a lot better. That said when out of a yard it remains around the 60FPS range.

We're on opposite sides, I have a new Intel setup with a old card, and you have a new card with old AMD setup

I'm sure your performance will sky rocket once you do decide to upgrade. I still can't decide if I want to get a 1060 or a 1070, but I'm not in too big of a hurry since not all the 1060s are even out yet (EVGA 1060 FTW).

[raptorengineer]

so i pick up EVGA 1060 ftw+ edition card and install it last night and i got to say what a big big improvement over my evga 960 ssc 2GB card. now on my 960 i have everything max out on train simulator but i sometimes have texture loading delays on routes. like first you see bages blocks for trees and then second later the textures would show up. but now evga 1060 FTW+ 6 GB version everything load insistently. textures and buildings and games seem little smoother. there still texture flickering when fov is 100% and train really far away but i guess it happens even on the highest video card like titan x or 1080. i think it game issue. over all i'm really loving my evga 1060 ftw+ card.